For the third session in a series on poetry and sound curated by Pia Chakraverti-Wuerthwein, we are excited to host her conversation with Bonaventure Soh Bejeng Ndikung in which they reflect on their individual practices, research, and past collaborations by trading tracks and reciting poems.

The session explores the idea of “muddying the waters” as a poetic, musical, curatorial, and life practice. Muddying the waters as a rejection of the mainstream through means of contamination, genre-mixing, syncretism, or creolification. 

Bonaventure Soh Bejeng Ndikung is the Director of HKW and the curator of the 2024 São Paulo Biennial, among other projects. He was the Founding Director of Savvy Contemporary. Pia Chakraverti-Würthwein is a curator and writer based in Berlin. She currently works at Esther Schipper as an Artist Liaison, and was previously a freelance curator on projects with Fondazione Prada, Slavs and Tatars, and SAVVY Contemporary, among others.